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Phenibut Vs Kratom: They’re More Different Than You Think

When comparing phenibut to Kratom, there seems to be a lot more differences than similarities. Some of you might be on the fence and considering which you want to spend your money on. No worries. I’ll help you figure that out in this short read.

Phenitbut is a synthetic nootropic while kratom is a natural nootropic. Both are used for recreational and alternative purposes. They help improve mood and cognitive function along with other benefits. Kratom has stimulating effects while phenibut does not. Phenibut is a lot more legal than kratom in certain places.

Let’s go ahead and compare both.

Differences Between Phenibut and Kratom

Both phenibut and Kratom are used for similar purposes, but they have some differences in terms of effects and other factors. 

As I mentioned earlier, phenibut is a synthetic nootropic. Some of the effects of phenibut are a huge increase in sociability and allows you to feel really sleepy after the effects wear off. This means it’s a much better evening strain. 

The effects are also known to last a lot longer than kratom. Phenibut users report feeling 5+ hours of effects. The downside about phenibut is that it is a lot more addictive than kratom. On top of that, withdrawals are pretty bad, with many reporting feelings of depression and more. 

On the other hand, kratom is a natural nootropic. Kratom is best used for those who want to feel an increase in mental focus, making it great for daytime use. But, some strains can make you sleepy. The effects tend to typically last anywhere from 2-4+ hours, which is a little less than phenibut’s longevity. 

Kratom can become addictive if taken daily for a long period of time, but it’s way less addictive than phenibut and other drugs. There can be some side effects when taking too much kratom. The best part is withdrawal symptoms and side effects are far less harsh. This is what many kratom users like- they are able to take kratom more often because there aren’t too many withdrawal symptoms and effects can be manageable. 

Similarities

Now, there are some similarities that can be found between the two. 

To start off, a lot of people describe similar effects. You can get an uplift in mood, feelings of euphoria, reduce strain, and get an overall sense of elatedness. They can be great options for those looking to uplift themselves and have a better day.

Another similarity is that tolerance can build up quite fast with both. That’s one of the reasons why it’s not recommended to take either one of those on a daily basis. It’s best to take breaks from phenibut and kratom, without abusing their great purposes. 

They’re both sold as alternative supplements, but always remember to use them in moderation. 

Dosages for Phenibut and Kratom

When it comes to dosage amounts for Phenibut, you’ll have to take a lot less than kratom’s dosages. For phenibut, it’s recommended that users take 0.2-0.5 grams of phenibut. This goes for powder and capsules. It’s highly suggested to not exceed more than 1.5 grams in one day. 

You always don’t want to take phenibut often because of addiction and harmful side effects. Some of the side effects can include seizures and depression. To be on the safer side, don’t take it more than 3 times a week. 

If you’re taking kratom, dosages are a lot more lenient. To start off, you’ll want to take only 1.5-2 grams of kratom powder, then increase until your reach desired effects. The average dosage amount for kratom is around 3-6 grams. It’s best to not exceed 10 grams in a day so you can avoid side effects like nausea and increased anxiety. 

Although kratom isn’t as addictive or harmful as other drugs or supplements, it’s best to not take kratom on a daily basis. Your tolerance to kratom can increase pretty quickly. Make sure to takes some days off, and use it only when you need it. 

What is Phenibut and What’s It Good For?

In case you’re unsure about this synthetic nootropic, I’ll go ahead and share some information with you. 

Phenibut is a GABA analogue and CNS depressant that was created by Russians in the ’60s. It was initially created to treat those with certain mental health issues, like anxiety and depression, along with other physical conditions. 

Here, in the US, it is still highly unregulated. It is not allowed to be sold or prescribed as a treatment of any kind. Basically, you’ll only be able to buy and sell online. Many phenibut users like to use it socially and recreationally to help boost their mood and confidence.

Reddit User’s Experiences with Both

There are a ton of kratom users who have tried phenibut or who alternate between the two. I went ahead and checked out some Reddit forums and found that there were far more users who favour kratom over the latter. There were some pretty good tips and insights that I think would be super helpful.

Here are some helpful posts and opinions by real phenibut and kratom users:

“Kratom has been my best [alternative] for 8 years. Always keep doses under 5 grams. Will reverse a pissy mood almost instantly. Phenibut was amazing…at first. Then the withdrawals…the weakening effect. Can’t really use it more than once per week without problems.” -saint_berzerker

“Phenibut has a higher risk for abuse and has way worse withdrawal symptoms if used more than 3x a week. I stay away from the Phenibut man. This is not to say kratom is harmless either. Im a daily kratom user myself. I guess I use it recreationally. I’ve been using it daily for over a year. I probably dose 1 oz a day easy some days more. I get pretty shitty withdrawal symptoms if I go without Kratom. I know tapering can mitigate this. The problem is the self-control on my end.” -mikesworld31

“Kratom is safer if you are planning on taking it often. It is far less addictive and the withdrawals are far easier than phenibut. If you want to take something once a week to chill and sleep well, phenibut is great. But it builds tolerance fast and you really don’t want to get addicted to it. Kratom can be safely taken far more often, and you have choices about what kind of kratom to take. White vein kratom is more happy and energetic while red vein kratom is more sleepy and euphoric. Some people can’t sleep on kratom no matter what, so I’d recommend taking it four to five hours before you want to sleep. Then you can enjoy your evening and pass out later when you want to.” -ElectronicExorcist

Is Phenibut Legal?

To put it shorty, yes. Phenibut is legal in the U.S. It seems to be legal in all 51 states. 

You can legally buy and sell phenibut online as a nutritional supplement. However, this drug is not approved by the FDA. So, you won’t find this at a local store or labeled as a treatment for anything. 

What is illegal is making any medical claims if you’re selling it.

Is Kratom Legal?

When it comes to kratom, it’s a bit more complicated. Just like phenibut, it’s not approved by the FDA and you’re not allowed to sell it as a treatment for anything or make any medical claims. Most states have legalized the purchase and sale of kratom products. But, there are some exceptions. 

Here’s a quick list of where kratom is banned within the US:

  • Alabama
  • Arkansas
  • California- (Banned in San Diego County) 
  • Indiana
  • New Hampshire- (Banned in Franklin City)
  • Rhode Island
  • Tennessee -(Synthetic Kratom is banned. Non-synthetic is legal)
  • Vermont
  • Wisconsin

If you live in any of these places, I’m sorry. Let’s hope they’ll legalize kratom in all places soon.

Which Should You Choose?

When it comes to choosing one over the other, Kratom seems to be the more user-friendly and natural alternative. 

As a quick recap, phenibut can’t and shouldn’t be used more than about 3 times a week. On top of that, it has some really nasty side effects and withdrawals, like feelings of depression. It’s also a synthetic drug. 

Although kratom can build a tolerance quickly, it’s a more natural alternative. It can also be used more than 3 times a week and dosage amounts can be higher than that of phenibut. I think kratom can offer really great effects for any situation. Experimenting with dosage amounts and strains can help you find the perfect kratom fit for you and your lifestyle!

Hi there, I'm Phillip co-owner of Kratom Krush. I began using kratom a few years ago to ease my anxiety. Ever since then, I've been experimenting with a wide variety of strains to compare their effects and get the most from this awesome plant. This is the site where I share everything I've learned.

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